Episode 5 – ‘Can I make a living from Football Index’ – what a year!

“I am going to change my trading habits slightly come the new year…”

Welcome to the fifth instalment of the ‘Can I make a living from Football Index’ series and the last one of 2019!

What a year it has been. My first (crazy) January window, the share split, the new scoring matrix, the dividend increase and one or two deposit bonuses. Plus all the other bits here and there we get thrown from the FI headquarters.

I joined the index in Sep 2018 and regretted not finding this thing earlier. Over a year later, I am glad I found it to begin with. There are still so many people who haven’t even heard of it, never mind refuse to acknowledge it and call it a scam. They are all missing out!

Scoring Matrix
Keep this safe to hand

If you had told me a year ago the amount of money I would have in the index I wouldn’t have believed you. I am a man who bets cautiously. I may stick a tenner on something now and then, £50 if I am ultra-confident (very rare) but more often stick a couple of quid on an accumulator. That’s about it.

The numbers I am “playing with” are eye-watering on this kind of scale. I don’t have an exact clear number but looking back I committed somewhere between £2.5 and £3k of my own money, which was a big commitment. Trust me. Most of us had our own doubts over this product when we first joined up but I got over them and went for it.

Finish the year on a high?

“If he does, he could really rocket.”

December was a slow start and this new app update that shows you your all-time trading profit every time you log in is really annoying me. 😀

I have always kept a spreadsheet of my ongoing all-time profit which I would update pretty regular and it was a nice surprise to see where I was at and how much I made since the last update.

Now, it’s in my face all the time and it’s like watching a kettle that never boils. If it’s going down it’s pretty annoying. This little function seemed like a nice addition at first, but you only want to see it if it’s going up! If you can turn it off someone let me know.

Some December trades

I made some trades that look to be decent this month. First up is Alphonso Davies. This 19-year-old kid has put in some decent PB scores and if he continues to make the left-back spot his own at Bayern he may well be switched to a defender.

If he does, he could really rocket. Not that Bayern like to keep too many clean sheets these days!

Alphonso

I have noticed the impressive performances of Emiliano Buendia, PB wise as well as on the real-life pitch. He looked like a decent player to get involved in, so put a decent amount of shares into him given PL was the only league going over the Xmas period. I’m currently up 20p.

Someone else I have put a decent amount of faith into lately is Marcel Halstenberg. I stuck in a fair amount when he was sticking in that impressive PB score not too long back and sold most of them.

Once he had a dip I ploughed back in and have high hopes for him once the Bundesliga is back. Surely a £2 player in the making very soon.

Halstenberg

Some other lads I got into more than my usual amount were Hamed Junior Traore and Julian Brandt. Both stuck in a fine PB performance with a goal to their name, so were guaranteed to receive action.

I sold both of these prematurely. You can’t always predict the future but a little more patience regarding the significance of the Xmas break situation was needed.  T

Now, the number of shares I stuck into them is something I would like to go into a bot more below.

New Year’s Resolution?

I am going to change my trading habits slightly come the new year and be more aggressive with the number of shares bought and (try to be) more patient with the time I think of selling.

Using the above trades as examples. Davies was a good trade but I should have bought more. Brandt and Traore were 1200 and 900 share size trades but sold too soon. It basically comes down to thinking more like a trader rather than profiter.

Brandt

Not all trades are perfect and things happen you don’t always count on but if I think someone will get a nice solid rise over a period of time I shud commit to it more in shares bought and time given for it to happen.

Let’s see how that goes.

What about the 200 club?

Some additions this month were Jadon Sancho and Paulo Dybala for varied reasons. I couldn’t ignore the PB victory Sancho stuck in and with the inevitable transfer spec in January around the corner, I grabbed 200 just before he went over £7 and he has had a lovely rise since.

Dybala hasn’t moved but he has grabbed a PB win after I bought in and I have high hopes for him if Sarri gets his head out of his rear end and play him for 90 mins week in week out. He is the best player he has at his disposal and it doesn’t take a PhD to work that out.

paulo_dybala

There have been some big dips in the 200 club which has been a hole in my all-time profit figure. It has been a non-stop battle between me and my all-time profit figure staring back at me!

Messi has fallen off a cliff and I am only just in profit with him Cap App wise. He has dropped 56p this month and is a £1 off-peak. His dividends accumulated thus far is his saving grace.

Kroos and TAA also had significant falls with the latter only recovering this past few days with a big PB score to remind people of his quality. Kroos is down 30p and him breaking £5 wasn’t that long ago.

Then there is Memphis Depay. His ACL injury clearly devastated his price but I can report I saw the news pretty quickly and instant sold him before his epic drop and massive opening up of his spread.

So, I can’t complain about that one. What I did do was buy him back once I thought he had bottomed out and I plan to keep him for when he returns at the start of next season.

Depay injury

There is no reason why he won’t return to at least the price he was before the injury and if the prices at the top end increase significantly, on the platform as a whole, he could be worth even more than what he was

The club has the following active members: Sancho, Dybala, Neymar, Trent, Messi and Kroos. Although this may have changed come the next episode.

Gimme some numbers

I finish the calendar year with the following:

Let’s get straight down to the overall picture and I have an all-time profit of £35,930. I am writing this on 30th Dec so there is another day left to get to that £36k mark, fingers crossed I can do it. Nice little target.

Dec ATPDec Divs

The Dividends finish off at £5,248 which is up considerably from where I started the year and around has increased by £1k from last month. A thousand pound of divs is not bad at all for a trader like myself.

IPDs have played a huge part in this over my time. They have been a steady earner for me over the year and will continue to be so in 2020. The addition of Match Day divs has been very welcome and I have hit these at a regular rate this season.

For some overall perspective of 2019, I tracked down my all-time profit email from last November and the difference from then to now is there to be seen.

Remember, I haven’t deposited anything that remained in the Index, I have actually increased my withdrawals over this time period. The activity on the Index is profit feeding profit, over and over again.

Comparison

I mean, that it is just a bit ridiculous. 😀

The overall average profit per week since I started this blog series is now at £1,219.65. This has been over a period of 20 weeks.

Quick maths will tell you the total profit have made since starting this on 11th Aug is £24,393.07. This is an increase of 364% in 20 weeks. Lovely.

As for December specifically, the all-time profit is up £5,218 from the last episode which isn’t bad. It is over the £1k a week pattern that started to establish from the opening months of the season, which is kind of a benchmark I use each week as I go.

If you can be bothered, have a quick look back at the previous episodes as a nice outlook on the progress each month. I did not expect these numbers when I started. 😀

Here’s to a cracking 2020

As we toast a fond farewell to 2019, let’s hope 2020 is even bigger!

FI are pushing again this January with their marketing campaign to bring in new users and new money which can only be a good thing. Hopefully, prices at the top really start to get charging as it brings the rest of the market with it.

Another thing I would like to touch on is the #FICommunity. We are seeing more and more sad little morons creating all kinds of crap on the #footballindex hashtag to either rip people off with fake transfer stories or fake accusations trying to make names for themselves.

These people are a plague and need to be stopped. The next time you see something on Twitter claiming to either be a transfer source or saying this user has done this, that or the other, look at what you are actually seeing.

Look at the “evidence” provided in isolation and make your own minds up. These ppl need banishing and having zero credibility given to them whatsoever. I get my fair share but so do others.

Lots of us know who the fake story pumpers are, so blacklist them. Next time you see someone trying to discredit another user’s good name with no actual evidence whatsoever, blacklist them as well.

I am not talking about other users you just happen to disagree with on something and are looking for revenge, I am talking about the clear agenda riddled cowboys out for a quick buck or quick 5 mins of attention. These people are either scum or moronic, perhaps both. We don’t them.

We can all block and mute but a quick word to others as to what they are won’t hurt.

Here’s to 2020. I wish you good luck!

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Episode 4 – ‘Can I make a living from Football Index?’ – Black November?

“If people take my blog for inspiration for this behaviour I don’t think they are reading it very well.”

Welcome to the fourth instalment of the ‘Can I make a living from Football Index’ series. 

The first three months have gone well but what would November bring? The new boosted dividend payouts started on November 1st and we also had a couple of batches of IPO’s. Question is, have I took advantage?

I left you last time out excited about the soon to be increased dividends payouts and looking forward to the added boost this would give dividend winning players.

How’s the ‘200 club’ going?

You may remember in anticipation for this I started a “200 club” which was made up of (what I believed to be) the best players on the platform capable of competing for dividends on a regular basis at 200 shares each.

The initial inductees were Neymar, Messi, Kroos and Alexander-Arnold. This covered all three positions of defender, midfielder and forward as well as a bit of media from three of them in particular.

Looking at these four players in terms of dividends earned since forming this new little club, they have brought back the following from its inception. Bear in mind they also brought in some divs before the November increase even kicked in:

type name quantity total date
Match Day Dividends Lionel Messi 200 £8 28/11/2019 00:13
Match Day Dividends Lionel Messi 200 £8 28/11/2019 00:11
Match Day Dividends Toni Kroos 200 £8 17/11/2019 00:13
Match Day Dividends Toni Kroos 200 £8 17/11/2019 00:10
Media Dividends Trent Alexander-Arnold 200 £6 11/11/2019 00:12
Match Day Dividends Lionel Messi 200 £16 10/11/2019 00:13
Match Day Dividends Lionel Messi 200 £16 10/11/2019 00:11
Match Day Dividends Trent Alexander-Arnold 200 £16 03/11/2019 00:12
Match Day Dividends Toni Kroos 200 £6 31/10/2019 00:12
Match Day Dividends Toni Kroos 200 £4 31/10/2019 00:10
Match Day Dividends Lionel Messi 200 £4 30/10/2019 00:14
Match Day Dividends Lionel Messi 200 £2 30/10/2019 00:12

Not a bad little return on just Match Day and Media dividends alone. They also brought in IPDs for goals and assists seeing as I was in the first 30 days. The real money made was in Capital Appreciation. TAA and Kroos, in particular, have skyrocketed over the past month.

So much in fact that I have actually bought more of these two at given points and sold on to take the profit, leaving 200 left in my port going forward. This has ruined any average price or percentages but there was money to be made so I took it. 😀

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It’s difficult to say the exact amount of profit these four lads have brought me in this “200 club” period, as I don’t even remember what day I started it and I have owned some of these players beforehand.

However, since the start of 1st October, these four players alone have made me £2110 looking at buys/sales/divs/commission from my downloaded transaction history on the Beta site and what they are worth now sat in my port. I am not gonna complain at that return.

I have also added Memphis Depay into the club on the 29th October. I could see him getting lots of action and I didn’t want to wait too long so jumped in before he broke the £4 barrier. He has brought me a few goals and an assist with a rise of 46p so not bad. He is injured atm so will see what he can do when fully fit and raring to go. 😀

depay

 

What’s the next trend?

“…he has the skills to suit the new matrix”

A few people have asked me directly what I think the next trend is gonna be and I have heard it/seen it being discussed on podcasts, Twitter and Indexgain. It’s always hard to say with complete 100% certainty but one thing that does stand out to me is “PB youth”.

Or to be more specific, younger players that look to have a big PB game for the future. The nearer the future the better. I don’t even know if this can be seen as “a trend” per se but if you can invest in a younger player who can challenge for PB, you are on to a winner right?

Some players I have put into this bracket are James Maddison, Rodrygo and Reece James to name a few. All three of these players are at different stages in their careers and also FI journeys but one thing they all have in common is their age. They are all 23 or under.

Maddison is a few years older than the others and has a full season in the Premier League under his belt, Rodrygo is a just few months into his new (massive) club and Reece James has literally just got his first couple of starts.

Maddison

Maddison showed last season that he has the skills to suit the new matrix as his key passes and chances created stats are right up there with any player in Europe. He is also on set pieces so his PB score can fly on any given Match Day, which we have already seen this season. Add in the England factor he has it all going for him.

Rodrygo has already won PB divs twice this season within a week of each other, and for an 18-year old, he looks to be a potential world-beater. What has impressed me most of all is he can show to have a decent PB base for a forward so he isn’t completely reliant on hat-tricks to win dividends. Imagine where he can be price-wise in a few years?

Reece James is completely raw as an FI player as we only have a few appearances right now to judge him on. His 45-minute cameo in the Champions League against Ajax was impressive. Not only did he score but he provided 7 crosses in that 2nd half which as we all know can bring big PB scores to flying full-backs. At 19 years old, he is one to watch.

He followed this up with a very impressive first-half away to Valencia where he was smashing PB and playing his way into the first team. The below are his stats:

Reece James

So, with the above being said, it would be foolish of me to ignore the potential of players like this. So as well as the ‘200 club’ being opened up for the established PB Gods and Kings, I have also invested in some PB Princes that could go on to rule the Index in the future.

No surprises that Maddison, Rodrygo and James are in there seeing as I just bigged them up and I have also added Benjamin Pavard who amazingly is still only 23. He has been putting in some quality performances and showing what Kimmich would be doing if he wasn’t now (seemingly) first choice midfielder.

I got on him when he scored last weekend (yes, it was his goal) and he has put in another decent UCL PB score and has broken through the £2 barrier. I got on him at £1.38 and has already given me a Gold Match Day div win, a goal and an assist. He could be up near £3 come the Euros.  Happy days. 

Pav Divs

I also added Leipzig 20-year-old centre back Dayot Upamecano, his PB threat has always been there and with a recent PB win and his last two performance getting a PB score of just under 200 without a clean sheet bonus, I couldn’t wait any longer. He also has transfer links and could be a future FI monster.

A couple of other players I have added are Christopher Nkunku and Panagiotis Retsos. Nkunku was more of a fixture buy given Leipzig had a tasty 30-day period and he showed he could put in a good PB score with a threat of a GWG but if he does the business he could be a keeper.

Retsos got his first start in a year for Leverkusen and given their strategy of knocking it around at the back, I grabbed some and see if he can put in some PB scores like his teammate Sven Bender. At 20-years old and 46p, there wasn’t much risk there.

Are these players all 200 share purchases a piece you may ask? No, given their lower price (Maddison and Rodrygo aside) and huge potential to grow I have 300 shares (give or take) in these lot.

How can you suddenly afford this lot on top of your 200 shares in elite players you may also ask? Well, let’s answer that by swiftly going onto this months numbers.

 

November numbers

I am taking these numbers as of 28th November, exactly a month after the previous episode on 28th Oct. I will point out immediately that I have taken out £900 this month but will also show stats as if I hadn’t for a clearer outlook on the progress made.

Last month I had £17,473 in the Index, this month I now have £23,933. Which is an increase of £6,460. If you add the £900 taken out it works out at £7,360 increase over the month.

This sits at £1,666 a week which has been above my ongoing average of around £1,000 a week so far this season. So, November has been a cracker!

The total profit made since starting this blog a week into the season is now £19,233. Starting with a “budget” of £6,700 this is an ROI return of 287% over a period of just under 16 weeks.

My all-time profit has now ticked over the £30k mark and stands at £30,730. My divs have had a nice boost also and ticked over the £4k mark to £4,228.

Nov All-time ProfitNov Divs

Looking back at Episode 3 it has been some jump in numbers this time around. My profits are up 31.5% and dividends have gone up 23.7% since then which is huge considering the size of the payouts and difficulty in winning them.

IPOs

This month also had two batches of IPO’s which I painstakingly tried to take advantage of as best I could. That first week of 24 hours a day for 5 days was tough. I couldn’t stay away for that fear of missing a big one so stuck it out for pretty much the entire process.

After a few close shaves, tech issues and overcoming just sheer boredom I came away with £1,700 on the first batch. The second batch was a much better process with actual time slots and I made £800 on these bringing my takings to £2.5k. I will take that.

Below is the first batch.

IPOs

 

A day in the life

“I was too stubborn in my ways… “

I have been asked a few times if I could show what a day in-play trading is like. I don’t have any videos or anything fancy to show but I can briefly go through some moments from the last one yesterday, which was 1st December.

Sundays are usually the best day for in-play trading as games are spread out nicely due to TV coverage and can have a few on before the dividend deadline. With the deadline now being extended to 3pm, this can create even more opportunity.

There were two tasty looking early games on with Sevilla and Juve at home as heavy favourites.

Bonucci opened the scoring for Juve to kick things off, which actually caught me off guard slightly, so just managed to get 300 at 53p. Juve went and conceded minutes later so I install sold him at 60p at a 2p spread, so a little bit of money made there.

Bonucci

A defender opening the scoring for the home team that are heavy favourites will always bring action and rises. Especially if he is the main defender with some decent PB. As chances are with a clean sheet you could be talking about the day’s top-scoring defender.

It happened on Saturday morning also when Ramos scored first for Madrid. I flipped 300 to the market nicely but gambled by keeping another 300 for possible divs. That didn’t make as much, as had to IS them when he gave away a penalty. Stupid Sergio.

In the Sevilla game Sunday morning, another defender (who had decent PB already in the match) broke the deadlock in the second half. Diego Carlos smashed one in which took him straight to the top of the PB rankings.

Diego Carlos

I bought him as quickly as I could when he hit the net and sure enough he got a massive rise. As he only had a 2p spread I kept all 600 gambling Sevilla would see the game out, which they did.

With 600 shares locked in, it was just a case of monitoring the day’s action to see if another defender could beat his score. With 8p top defender divs, it was a nice payout on top of the capital appreciation.

My average buy was 45p and he settled at 62pish so a possible 8p match divs and the 2p IPD on top was on the cards. Lovely.

He seemed to have it in the bag until Theo Hernandez scored a late winner in the AC Milan game which looked to have done him, so I instant sold Carlos at a 2p spread at an average of around 56p. Could have been more if I had cut loose quicker but take it and move on.

But that wasn’t all bad news.

I caught the Milan goal go in, so as I knew Theo has his admirers on the index I grabbed 600 of him once I knew he had scored and no VAR funny business was gonna rule it out. His spread was 3p but I didn’t let it put me off as if he won top defender or even star man, I thought this would bring action on him throughout the rest of the day.

Theo

He initially went up to 84p but with him being sat as star man, and winning it in the end, he did indeed get some investment and settled at 88p after all the matches were finished.

Now, I was unsure whether he would be sold off at midnight so I decided to list 300, which sold to the market, and I kept 300. Once midnight ticked by I took the IPDs and I listed the other 300 and they have sold at 88p so overall a decent trade.

If that was decent, I can’t say the next one was. Going into the day I had 600 Ciro Immobile. I actually had them listed for a day or two as I was lowish on funds and wasn’t 100% sure I wanted to keep him for the foreseeable.

Up against Udinese, the first half was before the 3pm deadline and he went and opened the scoring. I quickly delisted them and he had a nice rise. He went and scored again via a penalty, happy days, big rise.

Ciro graph.jpg

Now, here is where I should have perhaps thought about my holding. He had risen 32p at a peak from kick-off. If I had sold him to the market anywhere near this point I would have banked a huge profit. I didn’t.  I was too love-drunk on the potential for someone I had held for a few games potentially winning Gold divs.

I will say though that at this point he could have gone on to win Star Man the way he was playing and if he hadn’t have given a second penalty to Luis Alberto to bury, he would have done with a first-half hat trick. So it could have been a different story. Hindsight is always a genius.

In the end, he held on to top forward so I was well happy. He had dipped 5p from his peak rise but he was gonna return me 10p of matchday and in-play divs, so I was loving it. But I was loving it too much.

It never entered my mind that he may be dumped off after midnight like an unwanted Christmas present, as I still have the mentality that an 8p spread (or whatever it was) is pretty brutal.

I had a blind spot in my thinking. Maybe I need to get with the times as we are seeing some crazy ISing all over the shop these days. If I hadn’t had preowned him and bought him in-play, I very likely would have sold half and kept half like my Ramos trade on Saturday morning. I don’t get misty-eyed in flip mode. 😀

Ciro profit

What I did do was I listed them at midnight at £2.13 but I should have instant sold them, as others did in their droves and he went down around 6p in minutes. Then a few pennies more. Now this morning, he has dipped below £2. Unbelievable. Safe to say, I never saw that coming.

The right call would have been to just sell them in-play on the huge rise, but to be honest this was risking missing out on a potential huge div pay-out. The better call was to ignore spreads and think about what could happen to him in these modern times.

I could have IS’d him for £2.05ish but now I am left with him on the market at less than £2. You can’t always predict what’s gonna happen on the market as for all I know, I could have sold these at a decent price today or tomorrow and maximised profits.

The lesson to be learnt here is to not always have the “maximise profits” mentality but to always be open to a small loss to prevent a bigger one. I was too stubborn in my ways regarding his spread when others weren’t. Each trade is different but I will defo remember this one going forward.

I also bought some Jack Grealish when he scored against Man Utd, as he is getting people talking about him in regards to England and also as a decent FI player. But when he looked to have settled for the night, I stupidly listed and sold way too early despite me thinking he could reach £3 the next day as he was rising.

Going against your own judgement is the sharpest kick in the balls of all and I am trying not to look at his current price. Yikes 😀

Grealish listed

I also flipped some other players yesterday for small profits here and there and at the end made over £200 but as you can see it isn’t all plain sailing doing this in-play stuff. There are burns and missed opportunities everywhere as well as the smooth waves of profit. It’s constantly up and down just got ride it out and keep making money.

 

What will December bring?

“There is some responsibility with FI to make sure all news users know how to use the product but people also have to think for themselves.”

FI is giving away Xmas presents every single day for December with a nice Audi at the end of it. If I win any of these prizes then have a look out your window for some pigs flying pulling a sleigh with a half-naked Santa Adam Cole in it. It ain’t gonna happen. 😀

Market wise they are pushing out some heavy advertising which could see even more people join up and invest their gambling money. This may bring some rises but it may also bring some sharp drops at any given time, given the seeming extremely short-lived life span of some trades.

FI Xmas

What we are seeing at the moment sometimes makes me look like a lifetime investor. I have seen people buy very expensive players and be dumping them a day later, sometime just hours later. It’s a crazy and sure-fire way to piss money down the toilet. I wouldn’t advise it.

If people take my blog for inspiration for this behaviour I don’t think they are reading it very well. I am relatively short term, I am not instant. I have some method to what I do, even if it isn’t always spot on.

You may as well stick money on a player being the first goalscorer with a normal bookie and take the win or lose odds than buying him on the index to just dump soon after. The spread plus commission is killing you.

I am not talking about cheap players with small 2p or 3p spreads here obviously. I often take punts on these players time to time and there’s nothing wrong with that whatsoever. I am talking about decently priced players with wider spreads.

I ran a poll recently on whether people who signed up were aware of the market sell option. Around 16% said no. There is some responsibility with FI to make sure all news users know how to use the product but people also have to think for themselves.

When I joined up I didn’t use twitter for info. The first thing I did was join up to IndexGain as a quick google search sent me in that direction. Traders on there answered my questions.

I also experimented and explored what I was using before going in balls deep. If you click sell, there are two options. If you haven’t looked into what market sell might be or mean, then why not? Apologies but that’s just lazy. It isn’t like it’s hidden from you.

Have you used eBay before? What do you think selling to a market where people buy things at the price shown might mean? Try it. List 1 share and see what happens. I 100% understand FI don’t make it foolproof but the levels of what we are seeing are way too high IMO.

Anyway, I hope December is a fruitful month for you, there are plenty of games to get your teeth into even with the upcoming winter breaks in Europe, so I hope it goes well overall. Not sure when I will update the next episode, maybe in the early new year.

All the best!

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